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	More People Involved Interesting. I never have seen the star until now. James Hoban and L'Enfant attended St. Patrick's church. I would guess that they both were not masons. Hoban worked on the White House and Capitol Buildings with Dr. William Thornton. Benjamin Henry Latrobe was also a Catholic sympathizer, so I cannot imagine he was a mason also. You might research Baron de Graffe who worked directly with L'Enfant. Posted by Maus (guest) on Sun 31 Jan 2010 10:27:58 PM UTC
	L'Enfant Map Ellicott should be the one credited with the final revisions. I am sure that he, Washington and his brother masons were arcane patterns into the street design. I am sure the everyone who attended the Masonic stone laying on Oct 13, 1792 knew. Posted by Dark Horse (guest) on Sun 31 Jan 2010 03:24:46 PM UTC
	French Artists I would add L'Enfant's relationship with John Trumbull. Both were classmates at the Royal Academy. The two artists met at Suter's Tavern as well. The tavern was also used as the Georgetown masonic lodge during this period. Posted by Edward Connery (guest) on Sun 31 Jan 2010 03:13:44 PM UTC
	President Washington Commisions L'Enfant Major L'Enfant was connected to General Lafayette. He was also one of the few foreign members of the Society of the Cincinnati. He gained artistic mastery at the Royal Academy of Painting and Sculpture. The details of what President Washington discussed with L'Enfant at Suter's Tavern is what I want to know. His letter to Jefferson gives some insight. "I had the satisfaction to see the little I had done agreeable to his wish - and the confidence with which he has been pleased since to honor me in ordering the survey to be continued and the delineation of the grand plan for the local distribution of the city, to be done on principle conformable to the ideas which I took the liberty to hold before him. Posted by Luke (guest) on Sun 31 Jan 2010 02:34:08 AM UTC
	Goethe Masonic Poem Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Mason Lodge The Mason's ways are A type of Existance And his persistance Is as the days are Of men in this world. The future hides in it Gladness and sorrow, We press still thorow, Naught that abides in it Daunting us-onward. And solemn before us Veiled, the dark Portal, Goal of all mortal; Stars silent o'er us, Graves under us silent. While earnest thou gazest Comes boding of terror, Comes phantasm and error Perplexes the bravest With doubt and misgiving. But heard are the Voices- Heard are the Sages, The Worlds and the Ages; "Choose well; your choice is "Brief and yet endless; "Here eyes do regard you "In Eternity's stillness; "Here is all fullness, "Ye have, to reward you. "Work, and dispair not." Posted by Jeremiah (guest) on Sat 30 Jan 2010 09:56:13 PM UTC
	A Talisman Very insightful. But, the truth is not quite evident. This pentacle was made to protect America from evil chances and events. Posted by Ruach Elohim (guest) on Sat 30 Jan 2010 04:45:30 PM UTC
	Goethe the Mason February 13, 1780, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe wrote a letter to Privy Councillor, J. F. von Fritsch, at that time Worshipful Master of Lodge Amalia: "Your Excellency: "I take the liberty of importuning you with a request. For a long time I have had occasion to wish that I might belong to the Society of Freemasons: this desire became very strong during our journey. It is only on this score that I have missed the opportunity of walking in closer union with persons whom I have learned to respect. It is the social feeling alone which leads me to seek for admission. To whom could I better entrust this matter, than to your Excellency? I await the kindly guidance of what you advise in this matter. I await, moreover, your gracious hints, and sign myself respectfully, Your Excellency's "Obedient servant, Goethe." Posted by Freigan (guest) on Sat 30 Jan 2010 04:34:40 PM UTC
	Goethe's insight I think it is remarkable that Goethe foretold the growth of The United States, the settlement of California, and the construction of the Panama canal. Posted by August (guest) on Sat 30 Jan 2010 04:19:16 PM UTC
	America, You've Got it Better America, You've Got it Better By Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Translation by Daniel Platt America, you've got it better Than our old continent. Exult! You have no decaying castles And no basalt. Your heart is not troubled, In lively pursuits, By useless old remembrance And empty disputes So use the present day with luck! And when your child a poem writes, Protect him, with his skill and pluck, From tales of bandits, ghosts and knights. Posted by Jeremiah (guest) on Sat 30 Jan 2010 03:52:03 PM UTC

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